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Season 1-2 are great, S3 is much darker

The Orville carries the spirit of Star Trek: TNG, with the first two seasons surprisingly mature, fun and uplifting. Season 3 turned dark, grim and downbeat. There are amazing (musical) moments, specially to do with Gordon. But they double down on the Alphabet content and liberal vs conservative political issues.

It deals with many modern social and political issues (in particular US issues), like TNG, but it lacks the wisdom and wit to present a more nuanced and balanced perspectives from different sides, unlike TNG.

S3 in particular sometimes felt like a woke-liberal propaganda against everything they think are the roots cause of evil: conservatism, religion, family and patriotism.

Give the series a go, it’s nowhere near Picard or Discovery level of wokeness.

Mildly woke but has bigger problems

S1 is Family Guy meets Star Trek, as a fan of both shows, I had a blast.

S2 - S3 it gets more serious and they kind of killed the jokes. There are some good episodes here and there such as the illusions episode in S3 but there is no long-term vision for what the show wants to be and execution is mediocre. They needed to be more concise and preferably focus on exploring the universe. Also a whole bunch of episodes were regarding the "trans" son/daughter of one of the crew mates. I think 1-2 episodes regarding the topic were fine but that was a major plot point for S3 and it got boring. They do make a very based and anti-woke decision in the end for what it matters. I also really liked the romance between Issac and a crewmate I don't want to spoil. Really well done and the only well-written romance in the entire series.

It's mildly woke in S3 as a different crew mate discovers she was a lesbian because it's Hollywoke nowadays. She won't be back but to me it feels like the writers wanted to step in the middle between the woke and the anti-woke camp as in having a lesbian come out but also kind of hide it until the middle of the season and in the end it wasn't relevant to her arc at all.

Unfortunately S3 was mediocre so the show is probably dead, I easily recommend S1, S2 to an extent and only watch a few episodes in S3, feel free to skip the trans arc as it was quite boring. In comparison to Kurtzman's trash called modern Star Trek, this feels leagues above but I'd put it on about the same level as Enterprise S1/S2 or Voyager, some good episodes but no consistency and generally they need to up the writing to survive. Modern shows need to be great for long-term success and not just good and unfortunately this is mostly just good.

You paint some flames on the side, maybe like a rainbow unicorn, you got something.

Seth MacFarlane created this show as an homage to Star Trek: The Next Generation. Seth has been a vocal supporter of the Democrat Party, including the campaigns of Obama, Sanders, Clinton, and Biden in 2020 and 2024. Sigh. Despite that, utilizing The Orville he criticizes the insanity of progressives from his more moderate liberal viewpoint.

For example, the trans arc targets the immorality of sex reassignments on children. In Star Trek style, they show an alien society that has taken this to an extreme that everyone would agree is unethical. This may make progressives reexamine their stance. I appreciate this attempt to protect children from progressives.

Still, the trans arc results in multiple "gay" and trans characters in the main cast. Furthermore, in season 3 they added a lesbian. This overrepresentation feels like an agenda.

The Orville has the Commie utopia vibes of TNG:
“Human ambition didn’t vanish. The only thing that changed is how we quantify wealth. People still want to be rich. Only now, rich means being the best at what you do.” --Commander Grayson

Simultaneously, the show tries to be rational in its morality:
“The universe is not governed by individual perception. It matters what’s true.” --Captain Ed Mercer

Seasons 1 and 2 were comedic gold, and I thought comedy was how they avoided getting sued for copyright infringement due to similarity to TNG. However, season 3 dropped the comedy and became pure TNG at its darkest and most Borgified.

For fans of Star Trek, especially TNG, I highly recommend The Orville. Despite liberal themes, it will make you think and laugh. The Orville was officially cancelled after season 3. RIP.

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