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Episode 1: Predictable and forced.
I only watched one episode. If it got better from there, let me know. All other reviews (on other sites) indicate that it went downhill fast. So... Episode one: A tranny, truck stop hooker (good guy) Two smart, strong, scrappy women (main good guys), Two teenage sisters, one is super smart while the other is stereotypically shallow (good guys, of course), a white, male, insecure and idiotic, law-enforcement officer (bad guy) a white, male with severe mommy issues that rival Norman Bates (really bad guy) come together with a forced plot that is as predictable as anything I've ever seen. The situations are about as unrealistic as you'll ever see. Stun guns do NOT cause unconsciousness. They are designed to temporally incapacitate for a few seconds to provide escape.
Created: 11-10-2022
Fincher x modern woke.
Though being set in the 70’s, the worldview in which the characters exist is very woke. The viewer will have to wade through the swampy world in order to find the rhythm of the story. But once it gets there, arguably, it’s entertaining.
The protagonist is meant to be a 2020's-style modern, progressive feminist male in an 70's environment inhabited with racist, emotional men. He has an emasculating, vulgar girlfriend, establishing him as a beta masochist who’s into manly dominatrix types. Character-wise, it’s telling. There’s even a scene of him ironing his own shirts in front of her while she looks on with distain.
All women characters make disparaging “men are weak” comments. All women are masculine, overbearing and have lines saying verbatim, “I’m tough.” There is no normal or in-between with the female characters. This flat, cookie-cutter character might be the director’s aim, depicting how emasculation didn’t necessarily have the serial-killer result on the effeminate protagonist that it did on the serial killers in question.
And yes, identity politics. Gay, gay, gay. "Representation matters." The manly teacher character is a lesbian. If you’re into that stuff, there is lots of sex of all types, often depraved.
There are hints in the beta protagonist’s lectures like “we shouldn’t incarcerate criminals,” and any cops which think criminals should atone for their crimes are portrayed as stubborn, emotional morons. It’s disingenuous, too, because while the protagonist argues that nothing is black and white, the director only makes black and white types in his own movie.
The story is interesting, and Fincher is always twisted enough to make great stuff, but he hit pretty much every woke branch on the way down the Hollywierd tree with this one. At the moment the only woke stuff this drama lacks is pedophilia and political jabs, but I don’t know if I can get get far enough into the series to find out if he ticks those boxes, too.
Created: 11-10-2022
Decent, minimal wokeness
This was a decent movie, I couldn’t detect any wokeness.. Not an amazing film by any stretch, but a decent time waster
Created: 11-10-2022
I mean, it’s ok…
It was a somewhat enjoyable film, minimal wokeness. It did have your typical modern hookup culture vibe to it, but I was happy to see the story resolved to “being in a committed long term relationship is a good thing”
Created: 11-10-2022
No woke
A rather entertaining documentary about the exploits of Eric Conn, a social security grifter and con artist. Generally fascinating, but the last episode is minimum story and mostly about poor people who want more money from the government. I stopped watching around then.
But was it woke? No. Politics? No. Racism? No. Just a story of a larger-than-life criminal.
Created: 11-10-2022
Not Woke, Cautionary Tale Of Extremism
Great show based on the Lafferty brothers (who are very real) and Andrew Garfield kills it as the fictional (but based on a real detective) Jeb Pyre.
The show is based on the murders by the Laffertys and the harsh treatment of those who don’t conform to strict LDS views whether by not supporting polygamy, the writings of Joseph Smith, etc.
My one flaw with the show exactly however is it can drag on with backstory, building up characters other than the Pyre household.
Great watch overall on a very real group of people , even if it has some fictional elements .
Created: 11-10-2022
Woke Is Abundant Here
Only made it through the first episode watching with family, but there is an opening dream sequence of a group of women standing up and saying “Me too!” to a drunk, sexually aggressive, white male on a train.
The antagonist is shamed by his wife before she dies and is also shamed in this manner by the shows protagonist.
There is a Harvey Weinstein reference coming from the antagonist as well (bahahahaha!)
There are many other films and shows with an intelligent antagonist that is detained facing off against a great protagonist (Silence Of The Lambs, Mindhunter, Under The Banner Of Heaven, etc.)
This isn’t it.
Created: 11-10-2022
Fantastic Show
David Fincher, is the director of Zodiac, Fight Club, Gone Girl, and many other great films.
He hit it out of the park with this show as well. Shame it isn’t yet renewed for a third season.
Created: 11-10-2022
